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What if your calling wasn’t just to see clients, but to mentor other clinicians too? How can you make generosity sustainable instead of exhausting? Could interns and pre-licensed clinicians become one of your practice’s greatest strengths?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses becoming a teaching group practice with Sabrina Rogers.
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Meet Sabrina Rogers
Sabrina Rogers is a licensed mental health counselor, founder of Health Hope Harmony, and host of the Health Hope Harmony Podcast. Specializing in eating disorders, body image, anxiety, depression, and trauma, she helps people reconnect with themselves, heal their relationship with food, and create lasting change through compassionate, evidence-based therapy.
Visit Sabrina’s website and connect on Psychology Today and LinkedIn.
In This Podcast
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Why Sabrina opened a private practice
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Offering a necessary service sustainably
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The benefits of having interns and pre-licensed clinicians
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Sabrina’s advice to practice owners hiring clinicians
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Sabrina’s advice to private practitioners
Why Sabrina opened a private practice
I knew, even in grad school, that I wanted to go do my own thing. I have always been entrepreneurial … I’d cut my teeth on agency work, got my licensure hours done, and six months after finishing that, I was out on my own. (Sabrina Rogers)
For Sabrina, the desire to run an entrepreneurial business has always been innate. Since she was a child, selling lemonade door-to-door, Sabrina has followed her own path and has been dedicated to building something that’s her own.
However, she knew that while she had the desire, passion, and drive, she needed guidance and support on how to build a private practice well, which is how she got involved with Practice of the Practice.
At the end of 2022, the University of Iowa closed its own inpatient, residential, and outpatient higher-level care for eating disorders – which is Sabrina’s niche.
When we lost this big resource for the state, I found myself sitting there going, “What in the world can I do? … I think I can teach people how to treat eating disorders effectively and ethically”, so I looked at starting a group practice. (Sabrina Rogers)
When Sabrina committed to growing her solo practice into a group, she found her best-fit membership community to join within the Practice of the Practice network to help her bring this new phase of her dream to fruition.
Offering a necessary service sustainably
Initially, Sabrina was committed to offering student and intern services to clients in need of eating disorder care and therapy for free.
However, once she looked at the per-semester costs for all the learning students and interns, she realized it would sink her whole practice.
Therefore, Sabrina decided to find a way to make it possible: clients were encouraged to pay as much as they could, between $0 and $25, per session.
We’re not making any profit off of this, but at least it offsets my cost, so it is sustainable now. (Sabrina Rogers)
The benefits of having interns and pre-licensed clinicians
1 – You get to have a hand in molding the next generation of clinicians and therapists
2 – You can offer much more help and services to your community at discounted rates
3 – It grows your practice quickly
Last year, we grew 150% because of having interns … I hosted three interns for a semester from January to May, and when they graduated, they loved the practice and loved working here, so they all stayed on as employees, and we just transitioned them from now seeing pro bono, pay-what-you-can clients to building caseloads with insurance clients. (Sabrina Rogers)
Sabrina’s advice to practice owners hiring clinicians
It’s the advice that you always hear: hire slow, fire fast!
Be focused on who you want to work with, and [don’t compromise] for that. (Sabrina Rogers)
Many hard skills can be taught, but soft skills are rare and equally important to consider. Hire your staff as much for their qualifications as for the people they are.
Sabrina’s advice to private practitioners
You are in this field because you were called to something! If you are being called to start a practice, listen to it. Then, trust your gut, be patient, and get the help you need to bring this calling to reality.
Books mentioned in this episode:
Sabrina Rogers – Mirror Mirror: A Body Image Journal: Transform the Way You See and Feel About Your Body
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