Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 1 with Joe Sanok | POP 1294

If you were to start a practice this month, what are the first essential things you would need to do? Is it possible to work in a successful practice for only two hours a week? How far can you go in discovering the scope of the work before working with experts?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok starts building Great Lakes Online Counseling | Week 1. 

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In This Podcast

  • Foundational admin to set first 
  • Brainstorming with AI
  • Accountability going forward

Foundational admin to set first 

One of the first aspects of the legal paperwork to start with when it comes to launching a new private practice is: 

  • Where to file the LLC
  • Building out the website. Joe’s going to work with one of our current partners, Session Sites, to create the Great Lakes Online Counseling website. 
  • Start with the end in mind in terms of selling one day 

I’m going to talk to Dan King, he was one of our speakers at the GPBC in 2025, and he’s probably going to be back in 2026, he’s a guy who helps different investors buy practices, and so [I want to] think with that lens … I’m going to be reaching out to him to see if he’d want to do an interview where we talk through what [investors] look for when they buy practices so that I can build something that has the potential to be bought in a couple of years. (Joe Sanok)

  • Lay out the practice’s billing systems. Joe’s considering working with Headway, another great and long-term affiliate of POP, to start on the possibility of taking insurance. 

Brainstorming with AI 

One of the main ways Joe works with AI is to tell it how to think, and then to ask it what assumptions it has about how it is thinking and responding to the context you give it. 

These assumptions help Joe (and you) get a grasp of the core pieces. However, always check your information with a human expert as well. 

So I said [to ChatGPT], “If you were to take all the data and say which states I should focus on to make the most money and only work two hours a week, I’ll be hiring clinicians, so that’s only admin, where should I focus? (Joe Sanok)

ChatGPT gives its options but still recommends that Joe researches and enquires further before making a decision. 

Accountability going forward

Being that this is like a side-project for me that I’m building publicly, I want to make sure that I follow my own rules, and if I can’t, then [I will to] tell you why I worked more than two hours a week. (Joe Sanok) 

Since this series is a side-project and creative endeavour to re-enter the private practice launching and building space, accountability is important for Joe. 

It is necessary to be transparent and open because this is also partly educational, and that honesty may allow you, the audience, to learn while the project progresses. 

Updates on this project will continue weekly on the podcast! 

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GPBC25 Series: Building a Thriving Practice in a Saturated Market with Jill Williams | POP 1293

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Meet Joe Sanok

 

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Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners who are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.

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