How can clients receive therapeutic assistance in-between counseling sessions? What can the mental health industry do to supplement support for clients while therapists are in high demand? Have you heard of Noble?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Dr. Skinner and Eric Red about Noble, an app providing between-session support for your clients.
TRIGGER WARNING: This podcast contains sensitive subject matter *suicide, sexual disorders, drug abuse, divorce, infidelity, and sex.
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Meet Dr. Kevin Skinner
Dr. Kevin Skinner is the Co-Founder and Clinical Director of Addo Recovery. As a licensed marriage and family therapist, he’s been helping individuals and families for over 18 years. He’s authored the best-selling books “Treating Pornography Addiction” and “Treating Trauma from Sexual Betrayal.” He’s also Co-Founded Bloom, an online resource for women struggling with betrayal trauma.
Meet Eric Red
Eric Red is the co-creator of the Noble App with Dr. Kevin Skinner. He is a co-founder and partner at Path Wellness. Previously, Eric was the Director of Business Development at Precoa.
In This Podcast
- What therapists need to know about the betrayed partner
- The Noble App
- Human connection
- Dr. Skinner and Eric’s advice to private practitioners
What therapists need to know about the betrayed partner
The truth is I think many clinicians are not diagnosing PTSD. Many times, it is anxiety, depression, and sometimes we don’t even understand the depth of what their partner is doing so we might say its infidelity but in reality, it’s a deep-seated sexual compulsivity that’s been hidden for years that’s now starting to come to the surface by some kind of discovery. (Dr. Kevin Skinner)
80% of betrayed partners experience PTSD symptoms. Therapists can train their clients on what the symptoms of PTSD are to equip them better, as many of the negative side effects relate to PTSD.
Listen to what the clients are experiencing. Therapists can help to accurately diagnose what they are feeling so that clients feel heard and validated.
The Noble App
There are not enough therapists to satisfy the need for them. Clinicians and mental health practitioners are in high demand.
The research is very clear that in the next few years there are not going to be enough therapists. (Dr. Kevin Skinner)
It takes a long time to produce a qualified therapist, and therefore the supply and demand are out of balance. The Noble app acts as a short-term go-between for clients to use between sessions.
Noble supplements the therapeutic process by providing roadmaps of treatment to individuals as they go through therapy.
It provides bite-sized educational online content for clients to learn from so that when they get to their therapy, they are more aware and ready for treatment.
- Noble is all coded in-app, so no external emails or texts need to be sent
- There is an internal progress tracker
- It is designed to be as easy as possible for both the therapist and the client
If clients are doing between session work and homework, they are much more likely to increase the pace of therapy and reduce costs because they don’t need as many sessions, which means [therapists] will be able to help more people and [receive] more satisfaction from our clients. If you bring it all together; assessments, roadmap, contact the therapist, it’s more guided and specific. That’s the goal of Noble. (Dr. Kevin Skinner)
One of Noble’s core values is human connection.
We’re not trying to replace the therapist, we’re trying to enhance the relationship, that’s our entire goal. If the app ever gets to a point where it is replacing therapists, we need to make a change because we believe the greatest healing comes from those moments when you have discussions. (Eric Red)
The Noble app has in-built aspects to empower and assist the therapist, such as:
- In-app assessment and progress tracking
- Voice assessments
- Options for therapists to immediately recommend strategies and tools to the client to help them through a difficult situation
Dr. Skinner and Eric’s advice to private practitioners
Dr. Kevin Skinner: Invest in your mental health. As the therapist, you need to take care of yourself so that you can enjoy the work that you are doing. Remember to express gratitude for the work that you do and for the community you are a part of.
Eric: Take care of yourselves. Any meaningful change has to be made by a collective group of people and Noble would appreciate the feedback from therapists to build a great and useful tool.
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- Check out brightervision.com/joe for just $39/month on your entire first year of a new website
- Visit Dr. Kevin Skinner’s Website and see also Addo Recovery.
- Connect with Dr. Skinner on LinkedIn
- Connect with Eric Red on Facebook and LinkedIn
- Visit the Noble App website, and connect with them on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn.
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