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Have you been considering the group dynamics of the staff in your private practice? How can the Enneagram be a helpful tool for understanding the motivation behind the actions of others? Are you interested in finding out more about some of your innermost workings?
In this second podcast episode of a two part series, Andrew Burdette speaks about enneagram types and group dynamics with Hanna Woody.
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Meet Hanna Woody
Hanna is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in Asheville, North Carolina and has a Master’s degree in Counseling. Hanna has over 12 years of professional counseling experience and specializes in breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma, childhood trauma, and the Enneagram.
She is trained in trauma-informed therapies, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Motivational Interviewing, and Structural Family Therapy. Certified in the Embodiment Tradition, Hanna has over 150 hours of training and teaching experience in the Enneagram.
Visit Hanna’s website and connect on Instagram and LinkedIn.
In This Podcast
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Enneagram type 5
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Enneagram type 6
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Enneagram type 7
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Enneagram type 8
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Enneagram type 9
Enneagram type 5
This type is called the investigator or the observer.
- They tend to be highly intellectual and research-oriented and tend to feel more comfortable with research and data in learning things than they do through personal experience or relationships
- Type 5s tend to need (and want) more privacy because they can feel overwhelmed by interactions with others
- They tend to protect their energy to a fault since they can sometimes feel that they only have a certain amount of energy available to give others, and fear being drained
Type 5s have this belief that they only have so much energy and output for the rest of the world, and there’s this fear-belief that they’re going to get drained constantly, and so this is a type that tends to be over-boundaried … to where they aren’t putting themselves out there as much as they could. (Hanna Woody)
Type 5s can get stuck in:
- Overly researching before starting a new project which delays its progress because they want all the data before making a decision
Even though it is important to have enough information to make an informed decision, type 5s tend to overdo it and run the risk of never taking action, because there can always be more data to learn about before trying something new.
Enneagram type 6
This type is called the loyalist, or the sceptic.
- They can be a tougher type to type because they all exist on a spectrum of phobia. They often feel afraid, in varying degrees, who constantly analyze risk
- Some type 6s don’t look anxious because they have figured out a way of handling the fear, and some even jump ahead of the fear before they can feel it
What they all have in common is that they are doing a lot of risk assessment … And that’s a bit of a double edged sword. (Hanna Woody)
As a group practice owner, you do need to do a lot of risk assessment regardless of your type to predict what could happen when you are considering certain decisions, but there are so many things that could happen!
And so you could exhaust yourself trying to puzzle everything together in a contingency plan for everything, so as much as you can plan for the future, at some point you’re going to need to address something unknown to the best of your current skills and abilities.
Enneagram type 7
Type 7s are called the enthusiasts or the adventurers.
- They are excited about life and tend to be very optimistic, always following what’s exciting and interesting since that always catches their eye
- They can fall into the trap of chasing dopamine and the easy, fun things in life but avoid the difficult, unpleasant things that need to be addressed
For 7s, they have a really deep fear of getting stuck or trapped in … negative emotions or negative situations. So, as a personality type, when they’re working on projects, they love to plan and in that stage of things where it’s really fun, but as soon as things start to get more hum-drum and task-oriented, they tend to … not just get bored, but feel almost a little bit of a panic. (Hanna Woody)
- Type 7s can be excellent business owners because they can be innovative and keep things upbeat, but they get stuck by avoiding the tough, hum-drum things – which are all important for private practices!
Therefore for type 7s, learning how to sit and process through the more tough emotions and parts of life will help them to keep moving forward.
Enneagram type 8
The type 8s are called the challenger, or the motivator.
- They tend to be highly successful at the things that they put their minds to
- They can be described as naturally great leaders because they don’t mind doing what needs to be done, and they take care of everyone at the same time in the process
- However, one of the things that can happen for type 8s is that they can struggle with overworking themselves, which can end up in them becoming frustrated and angry when people that they have invested in are not pulling their weight
8s can get caught up in taking on too many clients, taking on more employees than they can actually support, and taking on more responsibility for themselves than they can actually sustain. Both 8s and 3s and 2s … can get caught up in group practice and focusing so much on work and making it successful that they end up neglecting other areas of their life. (Hanna Woody)
It would help type 8s to get more comfortable with vulnerability because when we work with other people, we need to be able to say when we’ve met our limits so that the team has the chance to work together instead of falling apart unseen or unheard.
Enneagram type 9
The last type on the Enneagram scale is type 9, often called the peacemaker or the mediator.
- They are an easygoing type. They tend to be the person who understands things from multiple perspectives
- They tend to be an intellectual type that can take in a lot of data and information, but they can get overwhelmed by it to the extent that they lose themselves
They can get so absorbed in understanding what is going on for other people, or what is even getting absorbed in the group practice … that they lose track of who they are. (Hanna Woody)
- What makes them more prone to this absorption into situations or other people is their tendency to avoid anger or conflict.
Anger is the emotion of boundaries, so when someone is always avoiding addressing their anger, it makes them lose themselves in the wants or needs of others.
There’s no such thing as a “right kind” of leader or a “right kind” of business owner. You don’t need to be anything different than you are! … But it will benefit you to understand and validate the strengths that you bring to the table. (Hanna Woody)
Useful links mentioned in this episode:
- Visit Hanna’s website and connect on Instagram and LinkedIn.
- Trust me, don’t waste any more of your time, and try TherapyNotes.
Check out these additional resources:
- Enneagram Types and Group Dynamics Part 1 with Hanna Woody | GP 221
- Practice of the Practice Network
- Group Practice Launch
- Group Practice Boss: www.practiceofthepractice.com/grouppracticeboss $149 a month
- PoP Group Practice Owners Facebook Group
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Meet Andrew Burdette
Andrew founded Mindful Counseling PLLC in Asheville, NC shortly after completing his graduate program in clinical mental health counseling. At the start of the pandemic, he pivoted to an online solo practice, and in 2022, began to grow a group practice. He most enjoys helping clients and colleagues identify what ignites their passions and assisting them in creating a life rooted in authenticity. Andrew approaches his business development with alignment in mind and enjoys the integration process connecting the many puzzle pieces and systems required to run a successful practice.
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