GPBC25 Series: Want a 7-Figure Practice? Take Insurance with Melissa Schneider | POP 1302

Why does taking insurance have a bad rep – and why is it unfounded? What’s the difference between having an insurance strategy and just taking insurance generally? How can having an insurance strategy skyrocket your practice into much higher revenue brackets, allowing you to scale your business without spending more on marketing? 

In this podcast episode, Melissa Schneider discusses the power of curating an amazing in-network insurance strategy for your group practice.  

Podcast Sponsor: Headway

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I want to thank Headway for sponsoring this episode. If you run a group practice, you know that accepting insurance can be overwhelming. Between credentialing, billing, and payroll, the admin side can easily take over your week.

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Meet Melissa Schneider

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Melissa Schneider, LCSW is a double group practice owner and consultant for mega-practice planning and scaling. She opened Resolution Counseling Center in Jersey City, NJ in 2019 and now has a staff of 60+ therapists across 3 offices. In 2023, she launched her second practice Cultivate Therapy, a specialty practice connecting her strongest therapists with the clients they most love to serve.
 
Visit Cultivate Therapy, Resolution Counseling, and connect with Melissa on Facebook and LinkedIn.

In This Podcast

  • Creating a practice that supports clinicians and clients 
  • How to scale your in-network practice  
  • Melissa’s advice to listeners 

Creating a practice that supports clinicians and clients 

Melissa is an expert in in-network insurances. From running two, large group practices that depend on insurance, she has accumulated invaluable experience over the years. 

I think our first mission as practice owners is to understand the whole game, so that we can give people the best pay and the best benefits that we can reasonably afford for them. (Melissa Schneider)

While you can offer benefits to your clients and staff as a cash-pay practice, you can also really take a big step in caring for your people as a business owner while taking in-network payments for therapy services. 

How to scale your in-network practice 

Here are the six key aspects to Melissa’s simple and effective core business model. While you can have different aspects to consider, these are the important numbers that Melissa wants you to know: 

1 – The average session fee that the practice brings in 

2 – On average, what you pay for one session to be completed 

3 – Know the average number of sessions that are completed in your practice within a month 

4 – How many therapists you have on staff

5 – Expences as a percent of your revenue, which is usually between 15% to 30%

6 – If you have a W2 employee model, how much tax you are responsible for 

Keeping these numbers in mind, Melissa experiments with two hypothetical practices, one that is private pay, and one which takes just one in-network insurance, to show the difference in earnings. 

The surprising aspect? Taking insurance brings in more money and benefits for both the owner and the clinicians. 

Let’s see what happens when we can get everybody full-time with that lower average rate. Surprisingly, [it’s] even better! Your therapists that are half out-of-network and half in-network could earn about $83k [annually] in this practice, plus you could give them benefits because they’re full-time, but what I want you to notice is that the owner in the out-of-network solution … is $134k, but in the in-network solution, the owner pay went up to $217k. This means that you would now have profit that you could start to make decisions about. This is how scale begins. (Melissa Schneider) 

Your capacity to scale the practice rapidly increases when you start to go in-network with your practice! 

Melissa’s advice to listeners

My old boss did not have an insurance strategy – he was just taking insurance, which is why insurance has a bad rep, right, for being low-paying, but you don’t need to do that! You can be insurance-savvy. (Melissa Schneider)

When you implement an insurance-strategy, instead of just accepting any old insurance, you unlock a vast potential for scalable growth and revenue that your business can use to expand enormously. 

Be intentional with taking insurance, work with a professional, or explore additional resources to discover how exactly you can plan out your insurance model to maximize earnings for yourself, your staff, and services for your client base. 

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Meet Joe Sanok

 

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Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners who are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.

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