Harvard Business Review Author: How to Easily Balance a Side Hustle and A Full-time Job with Elizabeth Grace Saunders | POP 988

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What should you do so that you don’t lose your mind when you’re growing a side hustle while working a full-time job? What’s the trick to knowing where is the best place to spend your time? What common mistakes can you avoid when it comes to time management?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks with the Harvard Business Review author Elizabeth Grace Saunders about how to have a side hustle with a full-time job without losing your mind.

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Meet Elizabeth Grace Saunders

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Elizabeth Grace Saunders is the founder and CEO of Real Life E® a time management coaching company that empowers individuals who feel guilty, overwhelmed and frustrated to feel peaceful, confident and accomplished. She was named one of the World’s Top 30 Time Management Professionals. McGraw Hill published her first book The 3 Secrets to Effective Time Investment: How to Achieve More Success with Less Stress, Harvard Business Review published her second book How to Invest Your Time Like Money, and FaithWords published her third book Divine Time Management. Elizabeth contributes to blogs like Harvard Business Review and Fast Company and has appeared on CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox.

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In this Podcast

  • How Elizabeth got into time management
  • How to not lose your mind while having a side hustle 
  • Where to find the best value for your time
  • Common mistakes with side gigs 
  • Elizabeth’s advice to private practitioners

How Elizabeth got into time management 

In 2005, Elizabeth had a full-time job and fell into being an entrepreneur at the same time. However, without having a lot of strategy around her schedule, she ended up working almost all around the clock, either on her job or on her growing business. 

Elizabeth felt like it was impossible to find a time when she could stop working without feeling guilty, and it became a continuous cycle of perpetually working without real rest. 

After a few years of this, I was like, ‘Enough is enough!’ If I can’t stop working on my own business, even if it’s ten o’clock at night or a Saturday or Sunday, I don’t feel successful … So I figured out how to get my own time in order. (Elizabeth Saunders) 

Now, helping other people figure out their time management is a significant part of Elizabeth’s business. 

How to not lose your mind while having a side-hustle 

1 – First off, you have to have clear boundaries around your main job, otherwise your full-time job will overflow into your other hours, which would make it increasingly difficult to manage and dedicate time to the business that you want to grow. 

2 – Set clear hours on when you will be working on your side-hustle or new personal business. 

3 – Decide for yourself what your personal time is going to look like, and schedule it alongside the other two, so that you don’t let yourself fall to the wayside. 

So the big-picture thing is clearly defining [those] boundaries and clearly defined allocations are really critical at this time. (Elizabeth Saunders) 

Where to find the best value for your time 

Once you have your boundaries established, the next step is to figure out where your time is best spent. 

If you have a lot on your plate, it can feel frustrating – and it could risk burnout – to have to spread your time across everything relatively equally and hope it sticks. 

You need to allocate your time in the best places so that you can get back the most value, which allows you to rest effectively as well as work effectively. 

Elizabeth’s bottom line recommendation is that you need to allocate your time to the “right” things, and those right things are where you get results. 

That might sound very simple, but it’s amazing how many people who are entrepreneurs or starting private practices might not be paying as close attention to that. (Elizabeth Saunders)

Common mistakes with side gigs

  • Lack of motivation due to exhaustion: if your work boundaries are low or non-existent for your full-time job, as well as your personal obligations, then you won’t have any energy or perhaps even interest in working on your side hustle. 

If you’re in that situation, you might need to try some different strategies. So for example, perhaps you could begin by saying, ‘One hour is dedicated each day to my side gig. It’s only an hour a day, but that’s way better than nothing’. (Elizabeth Saunders)

  • Overly enthusiastic: on the other hand, if someone is so excited about their side gig that they just become work-machines between their side gig and a full-time job that they neglect their personal life, that can cause some issues too. 

It can be tough to find the balance, but it is there. Remember that your self-care, including rest time, exercise, and creative play, are also important parts of your business because they serve and help you, and you are the one at the helm! 

Elizabeth’s advice to private practitioners 

It is okay to set boundaries and limits! You are not a bad or wrong person if you cannot serve everyone. 

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Books mentioned in this episode:

Elizabeth Grace Saunders – The 3 Secrets to Effective Time Investment: How to Achieve More Success with Less Stress

Elizabeth Grace Saunders – How to Invest Your Time Like Money

Elizabeth Grace Saunders – Divine Time Management: The Joy of Trusting God’s Loving Plans for You

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