How I find fulfillment: Joe Sanok’s Fulfillament Story | POP 770

Image of Joe Sanok is captured. On this therapist podcast, Joe Sanok, podcaster, consultant and author, talks about how he finds fulfillment.

Are you trying to fit in? How does not fitting in bring you the superpower of creativity? Can you trust the process and let life lead you to the best outcomes for yourself?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about how he finds fulfillment in his Fulfillament story.

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In This Podcast

  • Finding the passion
  • Launching the practice
  • Experimenting with Fridays

Finding the passion

Joe discovered his passion years ago for working with angry teenage kids and boys.

[I realized] I’m working with the very kids that would’ve beat me up in eighth grade, and I start to have empathy for this kid that [did] beat me up in eighth grade where I realized that … the anger he had towards me had nothing to do with me. (Joe Sanok)

The more than Joe worked with the kids at the shelter and as a counselor, the more he felt empathy for them.

He realized that they just had extreme emotions that they were struggling to handle and that they needed someone to talk to them with openness and attention.

[I realized] that angry kids really are an exciting group to work with. (Joe Sanok)

Launching the practice

Joe began his side-gig counseling practice, Mental Wellness Counseling.

The tagline was, “We help angry kids, frustrated parents, and distant couples”. So, like everybody. (Joe Sanok)

During his time at the practice, Joe realized that he knew very little about business, which led him to launch his podcast Practice of the Practice to learn and help others to learn too.

Life happens, and things got difficult. Between medical issues, death in the family, and turbulent personal lives, Joe knew that something had to change.

Experimenting with Fridays

For a summer, Joe decided to experiment by taking his Fridays off from work.

All summer I worked four days a week, in that fall … we made more money, the staff are happier, I feel better, I was available for the family, and so I kept working four days a week. (Joe Sanok)

In 2019, Joe sold Mental Wellness Counseling, and pitched his idea of writing a book about why the four-day workweek would be better for society.

During the pandemic in 2020, Joe went on his huge camper adventure with his family where everything changed in his life.

When you look at fitting in in the world. So often, we want to look like everybody else. We want to be peaceful at work and match all of our friends on Instagram with their trips, but the unexpected magic and superpower is not fitting in. (Joe Sanok)

Not fitting in is where creativity and freedom to explore come from, so relish in it, and explore it.

Books mentioned in this episode:

Image of the book Thursday Is The New Friday written by Joe Sanok. Author Joe Sanok offers the exercises, tools, and training that have helped thousands of professionals create the schedule they want, resulting in less work, greater income, and more time for what they most desire.

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Meet Joe Sanok

A photo of Joe Sanok is displayed. Joe, private practice consultant, offers helpful advice for group practice owners to grow their private practice. His therapist podcast, Practice of the Practice, offers this advice.

Joe Sanok helps counselors to create thriving practices that are the envy of other counselors. He has helped counselors to grow their businesses by 50-500% and is proud of all the private practice owners that are growing their income, influence, and impact on the world. Click here to explore consulting with Joe.

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