September brought a wide mix of conversations across the Practice of the Practice network—from exploring the habits that set top performers apart, to uncovering the systems that help practices scale, to tackling the challenges of parenting in a digital world.
Joe Sanok and guests like Pat Flynn, Jayson Gaddis, Dr. Matt Dixon, and Dr. Joseph Michelli shared insights on business, resilience, and family, while Brandon Shurn and Jennifer Froemel brought fresh perspectives on leadership, hiring, and identity shifts in midlife.
How can “finding the fun” keep you relevant, satisfied, and motivated in business? Why is FOMO stalling your success? What is the real secret to being successful and content in your work?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok and Pat Flynn discuss the changing world of passive income.
How to Be a Better Parent and Find More Fulfillment with WSJ Best-Selling Author Jayson Gaddis | POP 1264

How do interrelated and regulated family relationships lead to deeper fulfillment for parents and families? How can parents protect kids from the downsides of screens and social media? What role does resilience at home play in raising confident kids?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about how to be a better parent and find more fulfillment with WSJ best-selling author Jayson Gaddis.
3 Habits of Top Performers Revealed: Inside the 3,000-Person Study with Dr. Matt Dixon | POP 1258
What can a 3,000-person study teach us about the habits of top performers? Which of the five professional types do you most resemble – and how can you shift toward the winning profile? How can therapists adopt an “Activator mindset” to commit, connect, and create successfully?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses the 3 habits of top performers from the 3,000-person study with Dr. Matt Dixon.
How Great Systems Help You Scale with Tom Swales | GP 291
Why is documenting your process the key to replicating yourself and growing your practice? How can strong systems help you scale a business in months rather than years? What does it look like to build a system that truly supports your clinicians?
In this podcast episode, Brandon Shurn speaks about how great systems help you scale in months instead of years with Tom Swales.

The Importance of Saying “Yes”to the Right People with Liz Frost | GP 292
Why is it important to look beyond symptoms with depth-oriented therapy? What qualities really matter when hiring the right staff for your practice? How does saying “yes” to the right people transform your business?
In this podcast episode, Brandon Shurn speaks about the importance of saying “YES” to the right people, whether they are clinicians or clients, with Liz Frost.
Inside the Secret Customer Experience Playbook of Starbucks, Ritz-Carlton, Zappos, and Airbnb—with Dr. Joseph Michelli | POP 1255
How can clarity and intention make your brand stand out in a crowded market? Where should we draw the line between AI efficiency and authentic human connection in business? How can therapists improve their clients’ experience of the practice?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok reveals the inside secrets in the customer experience playbook of Starbucks, Ritz-Carlton, Zappos, and Airbnb with Dr. Joseph Michelli.
What You Need to Do to Get to the Next Level with Joe Sanok | POP 1254
With summer coming to an end, kids going back to school, and folks returning to regular work, have you noticed more calls coming in? Do you want to get your business ready for a busier season? What do you need to have in place to support yourself and your business in reaching the next level of your career?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about what you need to do to get to the next level with Joe Sanok.

The Therapist Behind the Change Series: Motherhood, Identity, and the Midlife Shift | FOC 37
What does it mean to face the “reckoning” of midlife? Why is midlife a new opportunity for identity and not a crisis of identity? How can personal shifts in parenting and purpose transform your clinical presence?
In this podcast episode in the Therapist Behind the Change series, Jennifer Froemel discusses motherhood, identity, and the midlife shift.
Your Secret Source of Resilience
What if the whole way you think about resilience is wrong? Could the way you are approaching resilience be holding you back from truly embodying and experiencing its benefits? What can we learn about resilience from old stories, like the Brothers Grimm?
In this podcast episode, Michael Glavin discusses 3 common misconceptions about resilience and what you can do to kickstart building your resilience today.
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- How to Find a Buyer for your Business: 5 Ways to Find a Buyer There’s a lot of options when you’re selling your business. This is the business that you’ve created, no one’s going to love it the same way you do and they’re not going to keep it the same. So emotionally you need to be ready for that, but when the time comes to sell your business make sure you follow these five tips. They’re going to help make it so much easier for you.
- How to Value a Small Business in 5 Steps: #5 Will Surprise You I’m going to be sharing with you exactly how to value your company before you sell it and trust me, number five is gonna surprise you!
- What If I Can’t Sell My Small Business? These are the options you have if for some reason you can’t sell your small business, and we have five of them!





