We’ve had some great conversations lately on The Practice of the Practice—from what it really means to “learn how to learn,” to how mindfulness and the nervous system shape how we show up in work and life. Whether you’re building a private practice, navigating burnout, or just curious about how to do things a little differently, there’s probably something here for you.
These episodes cover everything from:
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Why good intentions aren’t always enough
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What people-pleasing has to do with the body
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How a simple CRM can make your work less chaotic
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And what it actually takes to lead in uncertain times
You’ll hear from folks like Dr. Barbara Oakley, Dr. Scott Lyons, Brent Stutzman, and more. Give a few of them a listen—they might just shift how you think about your work or yourself.
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What is the surprising science behind altruism and why good intentions aren’t always enough? How can you learn to learn, with strategies for therapists that you can use to enhance client outcomes? How can we balance empathy and effectiveness in counseling?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about productivity, learning how to learn, and pathological altruism with Dr. Barbara Oakley.
Mindfulness: Changing the Mind-Body Relationship with Dr. Sula Windgassen | POP 1203

How can understanding the mind-body connection transform your health? Which strategies are the best for overcoming people-pleasing and enhancing body awareness? What are the practical tips that clients and therapists alike can use to navigate their mind-body connections?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Dr. Sula Windgassen about mindfulness, people-pleasing, and the changing mind-body relationship.
Mindfulness: What We Get Wrong with Trauma and the Nervous System with Dr. Frank Anderson | POP 1206
Why is empowering clients in their healing journey the greatest shift in trauma therapy? What is the role of neuroscience in trauma recovery when it comes to rewiring the brain for healing? Why is embracing agency in therapy essential for clients and their recovery beyond the sessions?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses mindfulness and what we get wrong with trauma and the nervous system with Dr. Frank Anderson, MD.

How a CRM Can Transform Your Practice with Brent Stutzman | GP 274
Are you frustrated with having clients slip away? Why does every therapist need a CRM? Which of the hidden benefits of CRM can you enjoy, such as having more clients with less stress?
In this podcast episode, Andrew Burdette speaks with Brent Stutzman about how CRMs can transform your practice.

Balance and Scaling in Private Practice with Justin Johansen | GP 273
Which essential tips do you need to know for avoiding therapy burnout while maintaining a sustainable and profitable practice? How do you move from burnout to balance? How can you prioritize client care, profit, and personal health while keeping the business going?
In this podcast episode, Andrew Burdette discusses balancing scaling and rest in private practice with Justin Johansen.

Productivity: Get Better at Anything with Scott H. Young | POP 1201
How can private practitioners master the art of learning for success? What’s the process of unlocking your learning potential to transform your practice and yourself? Where should you focus your attention to get the most out of your goals?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about productivity and how to get better at anything with Scott H. Young.
Mindfulness: Drama Helps You Avoid Trauma with Holistic Psychologist Dr. Scott Lyons | POP 1200
Have you ever felt that you could be addicted to drama? What should you know about understanding, breaking, and healing the cycle of crisis and chaos? How does unregulated or unresolved drama impact your nervous system and life in general?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses mindfulness and how to avoid trauma with holistic psychologist Dr. Scott Lyons.

What is the difference between being in charge and being a true leader? How can you create a culture of calm during change within the office? Can you learn to lead with your heart and use emotional well-being and steady leadership skills in times of crisis?
In this podcast episode, Jennifer Froemel speaks about how to lead through uncertainty without losing the room.
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