What does it take to build a thriving therapy practice, create healthier relationships, and navigate the challenges that come with being a therapist and business owner? This month on the Practice of the Practice network, we’re exploring big questions about love, business, clinical practice, and professional growth.
From building a practice that can run without you to deciding whether owning your own building makes financial sense, there’s plenty for practice owners to dig into. We’re also looking at referral networks, the changing landscape of CAQH and DataSpring, and what therapists should consider before offering ketamine-assisted therapy.
And if you’re interested in psychology beyond traditional therapy, we’re welcoming a new podcast focused on forensic psychology, while The Fear of Change explores what happens when you stop chasing perfection and start living more authentically.Podcasts
Are we expecting one person to give us everything we’re missing in life? What if our relationships could teach us more about ourselves than we ever expected? Could the smallest acts of love be the ones that matter most?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok and Robin Ducharme talk about love.How to Have Secure Love with Julie Menanno | POP 1414
How can couples counselling help elevate the whole community? What is the best way for couples to regulate and find solutions together after conflict? Can you validate your partner’s feelings without agreeing with their perspective?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses how to have secure love with Julie Menanno, MA, LMFT, LCPC.
Should You Offer Ketamine-Assisted Therapy? With Jonathan Sabbagh and Myriam Barthes | POP 1416
What should therapists know before bringing ketamine-assisted therapy into their practice? Could psychedelic-assisted therapy help clients move beyond feeling stuck in traditional treatment? What mistakes should therapists avoid when stepping into this emerging field?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses the current landscape of ketamine psychedelic therapy with Jonathan Sabbagh and Myriam Barthes.How referrals networks Unlock Profit with Dr. Dave Rominski | GP 346
Why does a packed waiting room not equate to a profitable practice? Is it more about the right patients coming in the door, rather than about how many? Are you working hard and risking burnout – but not making any money?
In this podcast episode, Brandon Shurn discusses how referrals networks can unlock the next level of profit in practice with Dr. Dave Rominski.
How to Build a Practice That Runs Without You with Ryan Savage | GP 345
How can you tell whether your practice is running on systems or on you as the owner? What happens when a system in your practice is compromised? Why do autonomous systems in your practice help curb your burnout as an owner?
In this podcast episode, Brandon Shurn discusses how to build an autonomous business that doesn’t need you in the room to function with Ryan Savage.In our current economy, is it worth being a landlord? Can you buy a property without spending any money? Have you ever considered creative financing?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses the pros and cons of owning your own building with Emily Runyan.If you take insurance in your practice, you probably know CAQH, the clunky back-end system where you’ve been entering and re-attesting your professional information for years.
CAQH is now DataSpring. It has moved from a nonprofit to a for-profit structure, with major health insurance companies as its shareholders. And that has understandably raised some eyebrows among independent therapists and practice owners. What exactly can those insurance companies see? Could our professional data eventually be used to narrow networks or steer patients?
Do you want to explore the intersection between psychology and the law? Welcome to the Forensic Psychology Podcast! Each episode will explore the science, practice, and business of forensic psychology through practical conversations you won’t find in your graduate training.
In this podcast episode, Dr. Casey Mangnall welcomes you to class: Forensic Psychology 601.

What would change in your life if you stopped trying to meet everyone else’s expectations and finally chose yourself? Could speaking up be the first step toward true authenticity? How much of who you are today is genuinely you, or a collection of old coping mechanisms?
In this podcast episode, Jennifer Froemel discusses going from perfectionism to authenticity with Amy Green Smith.
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- How to Find a Buyer for your Business: 5 Ways to Find a Buyer There’s a lot of options when you’re selling your business. This is the business that you’ve created, no one’s going to love it the same way you do and they’re not going to keep it the same. So emotionally you need to be ready for that, but when the time comes to sell your business make sure you follow these five tips. They’re going to help make it so much easier for you.
- How to Value a Small Business in 5 Steps: #5 Will Surprise You I’m going to be sharing with you exactly how to value your company before you sell it and trust me, number five is gonna surprise you!
- What If I Can’t Sell My Small Business? These are the options you have if for some reason you can’t sell your small business, and we have five of them!



