Enneagram Types and Group Dynamics Part 1 with Hanna Woody | GP 221

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Why is the enneagram a great tool for private practice owners and leaders? Have you wanted to track and change your behavior patterns? Do you sometimes feel like you are standing in your own way and you don’t know how to make a change?

Andrew Burdette speaks about enneagram types and group dynamics with Hanna Woody in this first episode of a two-podcast series.

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Meet Hanna Woody

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Hanna is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in Asheville, North Carolina and has a Master’s degree in Counseling. Hanna has over 12 years of professional counseling experience and specializes in breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma, childhood trauma, and the Enneagram.

She is trained in trauma-informed therapies, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Motivational Interviewing, and Structural Family Therapy. Certified in the Embodiment Tradition, Hanna has over 150 hours of training and teaching experience in the Enneagram.

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In This Podcast

  • What the enneagram is 
  • Private practice owners and the enneagram 
  • A brief overview of the enneagram types

What the enneagram is 

The enneagram is … that it is a personality model that is rooted in both psychology and spirituality. There’s nothing static about personalities … That’s not how humans are, and that’s certainly not what the enneagram describes. (Hanna Woody)

Hanna goes on further to explain that, according to her experience and work, a personality is more like a pattern that embodies the way that a person may behave, and these patterns can change over time, depending on lived experiences, and so forth. 

More so, our personalities are … how we have figured out how we cope with life [and] how we are trying to get our needs met … And so it’s so much more than just personality traits … It really is dynamic. (Hanna Woody) 

Some of the teachings of the enneagram include being aware of how one changes throughout life, as well as intentional personal growth, which includes releasing the things that no longer serve you. 

For example, you can use the enneagram to guide you and show you how you might be in your own way when it comes to overcoming constant issues in your life. The Enneagram can help you to contextualize your patterns, separate them from your core, and release them.

Private practice owners and the Enneagram 

For any leader, knowing your enneagram type is a game-changer. Not only does the enneagram help you to observe and learn about yourself, but it may help you to understand and give grace to other people on a deeper, more nuanced level. 

Everyone can definitely benefit from learning their enneagram type, and whether you’re going to use it for yourself in your own individual growth or you want to use it for understanding your employees in your group practice … It’s helpful for all of that. (Hanna Woody)

The best way to type yourself is to do your own research about all the different types, while paying close attention to how you feel about each type, and if you have any strong emotional reactions while reading about them. 

These nudges, tugs, and emotions are the things that can guide you to figuring out which type you might be, or which types might be your “wings”, adjacent to your actual type – if it remains elusive. 

There are enneagram typing tests online, but Hanna recommends that you take those with a pinch of salt, and to remember that you know yourself better. Don’t let a test have more authority than your own feelings. 

If you’re typing yourself, you’re already engaging in the enneagram in the way that it’s supposed to [be used], which is a growth model that helps you create more insight and helps you dig deeper into who you are and helps you release what isn’t serving you anymore … And we can’t start that process with a test telling us who we are. (Hanna Moody) 

A brief overview of the enneagram types 

Type 1: The reformer or perfectionist 

  • They can spend a lot of time prepping their practice to make sure things are in order since they do not easily enjoy spontaneity
  • However, they can be at risk of over-planning which can stop them from taking risks and trying something new 
  • Sometimes type 1s prefer rules which means that they are always working on tasks, and therefore they can have a tough time giving themselves a break 

Type 2: The helper 

  • High caretaker type that is kind and generous 
  • They know how to give to other people and take care of other people’s needs, however, they often are out of practice in taking care of their own 
  • Often type 2s can be people-pleasers. They want to be such a great boss to their staff that they don’t pay themselves enough or lose track of financial boundaries 

Type 3: The achiever 

  • They put their all into everything that they do and when they try to achieve their goals, which means that they’re often quite good at what they do 
  • However, if they do not think that they would be good at something that they want to try, they don’t, because they don’t like losing or failing 
  • Type 3s also run the risk of overworking since they often put so much self-worth into the value and success of their work 

Type 4: The individualist 

  • They can struggle to get things started – the artist types! 
  • Type 4s are centered around deep emotions authenticity and they want their work to come from these aspects as well 
  • They believe that they are quite different from those around them, so they can suffer sometimes from comparison 
  • Type 4s can struggle with time inefficiency often – also partly due to struggling with perfectionism 

Books mentioned in this episode:

Don Richard Riso & Russ Hudson – The Wisdom of the Enneagram: The Complete Guide to Psychological and Spiritual Growth for the Nine Personality Types

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    Meet Andrew Burdette

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    Andrew founded Mindful Counseling PLLC in Asheville, NC shortly after completing his graduate program in clinical mental health counseling. At the start of the pandemic, he pivoted to an online solo practice, and in 2022, began to grow a group practice. He most enjoys helping clients and colleagues identify what ignites their passions and assisting them in creating a life rooted in authenticity. Andrew approaches his business development with alignment in mind and enjoys the integration process connecting the many puzzle pieces and systems required to run a successful practice.

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