The Unlocked Leader with Hortense le Gentil | POP 983

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Which “mind traps” do CEOs often fall into and how can they avoid them? Can you shift your approach to leadership to be more of the coach than the quarterback? How can you foster a sense of leadership and ownership in your staff for the business?

In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about the unlocked leader with Hortense le Gentil. 

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Meet Hortense le Gentil

A photo of Hortense le Gentil is captured. She is a world-renowned executive leadership coach, speaker, and author. She guides CEOs and senior executives on their journey from hero leaders to human leaders. Hortense is featured on the Practice of the Practice, a therapist podcast.

Hortense le Gentil is a world-renowned executive leadership coach, speaker, and author. She guides CEOs and senior executives on their journey from hero leaders to human leaders. Guided by 30 years in business, working across industries—including media consulting and advertising—and as an entrepreneur. Hortense was a 2021 and 2023 nominee for the Thinkers 50 Coaching and Mentoring Awards and has been ranked #5 on the Global Gurus list by World Management Global Gurus. She is a certified Marshall Goldsmith Stakeholder CenteredTM coach and a member of MG100 Coaches.

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In this Podcast

  • CEO mind traps to avoid
  • Address your unaddressed traumas 
  • Fostering a sense of leadership in your staff
  • Hortense’s advice to private practitioners

CEO mind traps to avoid 

The world has changed and along with it the standard definitions or expectations of certain roles, like leadership. 

Nowadays, people want to connect with their leaders. 

They want you to be human, they don’t need another hero … They need to know you, they need to be able to feel you, to understand you, to feel like you are one of [them]. (Hortense le Gentil)

As a leader, this can be difficult to do, especially if you think that you need to be the hero. This mindset then stands in your way and stops you from moving forward. 

The realization that Hortense had, and encourages you to do, is to truly and fully find and follow your voice.  

Address your unaddressed traumas 

Hortense explains trauma using the metaphor of the brain being like a house. In this house, you have different rooms with relevant furniture which symbolize your emotions. 

With trauma, it’s an event or a series of events that triggers your emotions and your sense of safety. 

Trauma upsets your brain and its house, causing the furniture to be rearranged and put in confusing or unhelpful places so that it is difficult to move around your house normally. 

Now, imagine that you are having in the middle of your living room … your car … Because this car is your trauma, and your work is to put the car back in the garage. (Hortense le Gentil) 

When tasks seem overwhelming, like your work, applying for a job, networking with someone you admire, or anything that requires you to be in a room which you, for some reason, cannot be in normally, your “furniture” may have been rearranged due to trauma. 

Something may be where it shouldn’t be, and it is causing you to trip up unnecessarily. The work is, therefore, to find what’s lost, missing, or out of place inside of yourself, so that you can move around your life without getting tripped up on the way. 

You challenge those beliefs and those voices with these questions; “Is this true? Is it relevant? Is it helpful today?” … if the answer is “no”, you let [it] go, and this is how you put back your car in the garage. (Hortense le Gentil)

Fostering a sense of leadership in your staff

As the leader, you set the tone. 

You have to understand that your role [has] changed, you are not the quarterback anymore, you are the coach. (Hortense le Gentil)

The business is your responsibility and you give the vision, but you don’t have to carry it out single-handedly. You teach and uplift your staff to work alongside you towards the shared vision by empowering them to take action. 

Make an effort to have a connection with each person that you work with, and care for them, because they can feel that and they appreciate it. This environment creates empathy, belonging, and allows everyone to feel part of the vision.

Hortense’s advice to private practitioners

Ask yourself; “What do you want to keep in your life? What do you want to add to your life? What do you want to let go?” use these answers and write and live your story. 

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Hortense le Gentil – The Unlocked Leader: Dare to Free Your Voice, Lead with Empathy, and Shine Your Light in the World

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Meet Joe Sanok

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